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Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2011.11.03 06:45:00 - [1] - Quote just saying, this cruiser is capable of numbers like 670dps while omnitanking 900dps, for example. it is the gold standard in PVE, and there isnt really a reason to fly anything else (at cruiser/BC level). Tengu is the go-to PVE boat, and people dont have a reason to use anything else. should it be this way?
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2011.11.03 06:53:00 - [2] - Quote wish other T3's were capable of even remotely similar numbers in PVE.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2011.11.03 07:33:00 - [3] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Hungry Eyes wrote: wish other T3's were capable of even remotely similar numbers in PVE. Then that should be the title of your thread. the title is: tengu needs nerf (to be brought down to par with the rest of T3's) . easier to nerf one ship than to buff 3.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2011.11.03 20:20:00 - [4] - Quote Maggeridon Thoraz wrote: the same dumb threads over again and over again like afk cloaky and tengu nerfs threads im speaking about PVE strictly. there's no reason to fly another cruiser hull in PVE.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2011.11.03 20:20:00 - [5] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Tengu is fine, the problem is all other T3's are just good for specific role or maybe 2 while they're supposed to be VERSATILE. Tengu IS versatile and a very good ship for pve/pvp, all others don't, that's why they should be buffed at Tengu level. or this, agreed.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2011.11.04 14:30:00 - [6] - Quote Djakku wrote: Hungry Eyes wrote: just saying, this cruiser is capable of numbers like 670dps while omnitanking 900dps, for example. it is the gold standard in PVE, and there isnt really a reason to fly anything else (at cruiser/BC level). Tengu is the go-to PVE boat, and people dont have a reason to use anything else. should it be this way? Those stats you mentioned are less than a Battleship, why do you think the Tengu needs a nerf again? The ship is fine, it's a T3, it's supposed to be good, don't forget a lot of T3's are pimped, if anything needs changing the skill requirements should be greater (if you consider how much training is required for command ships and thier performance compared to a T3) because those numbers are godly for a cruiser, even if it's T3. no other T3 cruiser can achieve such high dps at virtually unlimited range.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2011.11.04 14:34:00 - [7] - Quote Lord Ryan wrote: Mystical Might wrote: I see This chain occuring; Nerf the Tengu!! Ohno, Now Loki is OP. Nerf the Loki!! Ohno, Now the Legion is OP, Nerf the Legion !!! Ohno, Now the Proteus is OP, Nerf the Proteus!! Ohno, Now the Tengu is OP, Nerf the Tengu!! Just imagine it repeated down the page. OR, you can accept that different ships are good at different things and move on? Or fly a different ship. +1 basically my whole point is, T3 ships are not in line. not even close. the Tengu is TOO GOOD at raping and pillaging everything PVE, and hands down the best cruiser in the game in PVP in pretty much any situation. with very high SP and faction gear of course. so there is little reason to fly anything else.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2011.11.04 18:16:00 - [8] - Quote Herman Klaus wrote: OP Doesn't know WTF he's talking about! My 1100dps Nightmare would **** on your Tengu for pretty much every L4. Even against annoying Angels! you sound like a moron. who the hell is talking about L4's and battleships?
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2011.11.04 21:29:00 - [9] - Quote Tore Smith wrote: Hungry Eyes wrote: Herman Klaus wrote: OP Doesn't know WTF he's talking about! My 1100dps Nightmare would **** on your Tengu for pretty much every L4. Even against annoying Angels! you sound like a moron. who the hell is talking about L4's and battleships? well for one your shitpost wasn't specific on the pve content, so assuming l4s are part of your "problem" wasn't so far fetched for him. so only if you're talking whs the tengu shines. but even there you have better options if you're not alone. is there any real argument up your sleeve? there's no need to argue, just use your onboard scanner. tengus fuckin everywhere. the only thing preventing this ship from become ubiquitous like the drake is the price. noobs cant afford it.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2011.11.04 22:01:00 - [10] - Quote m0cking bird wrote: No... hell yes....

Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 134	Posted - 2011.11.08 17:04:00 - [11] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: JackStraw56 wrote: Hungry Eyes wrote: just saying, this cruiser is capable of numbers like 670dps while omnitanking 900dps, for example. it is the gold standard in PVE, and there isnt really a reason to fly anything else (at cruiser/BC level). Tengu is the go-to PVE boat, and people dont have a reason to use anything else. should it be this way? 670 dps is the gold standard for PVE? He's probably flying gallente and using hybrids, everything else can do from 1k to almost 2 (gimp fits), so no, Tengu is not overpowered. no im not. 670 dps at any range is huge for cruiser/BC sized hulls. i am not comparing the Tengu to battleships/marauders in pve.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2011.11.09 03:28:00 - [12] - Quote Nimrod Nemesis wrote: What i've learned here: When arguing for buffs, compare everything to projectiles. When arguing for nerfs, compare everything to hybrids. The latter is now even more potent since it's a moving goal-post. actually, no. heavy missiles are a category of their own. you should not be able to project such high dps over such a huge range, and never miss. this is not too hard to grasp.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2011.11.09 06:24:00 - [13] - Quote with all due respect, i didnt start this thread to be educated about missiles and Tengus. i know how they work. ive been on both ends of the relationship many times. that being said, HM's will wear down your inty/AF in 30-ish seconds or so. speed tanking goes a long way in reducing damage, but you cannot outrun missiles like you used to be able to. HML 100MB AB Tengus are beasts and can handle anything. it is a stupid, unbalanced ship. the cookie cutter setup is out and everyone's grandma is using one.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 206	Posted - 2011.11.24 05:54:00 - [14] - Quote why is it that the Tengu can faceroll through any pvp and pve situation without any risk whatsoever?

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